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 Post subject: Re: Yankee Fans.
PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2009 3:25 pm 
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Hehe. The only person Cownip agrees with all the time is himself. Seriously dude, you should be a politician. You are good at these debates. :lol:

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If Howard was fast, we wouldn't expect him to hit 45-50 homers every year now, would we?

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 Post subject: Re: Yankee Fans.
PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2009 5:09 pm 
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We'd probably expect more like 30. Unless he was some Rickey Henderson-esque base stealer.
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lanceberkman wrote:
Hehe. The only person Cownip agrees with all the time is himself. Seriously dude, you should be a politician. You are good at these debates. :lol:

Yes.
If Howard was fast, we wouldn't expect him to hit 45-50 homers every year now, would we?

Are you guys listening to me? I agree. Why are you still trying to convince me. I don't know what you mean Lance, because I'm agreeing with them right now. I don't know if that's an insult or compliment. I think you guys misundestood me compleatly. I wasn't talking about Howard in terms of good players, just in general. He is practically undisbutably a one-dimensional player, but that doesn't mean he's bad.

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 Post subject: Re: Yankee Fans.
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Ok I think I get what you're saying.
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cownip wrote:
catcher51 wrote:
lanceberkman wrote:
Hehe. The only person Cownip agrees with all the time is himself. Seriously dude, you should be a politician. You are good at these debates. :lol:

Yes.
If Howard was fast, we wouldn't expect him to hit 45-50 homers every year now, would we?

Are you guys listening to me? I agree. Why are you still trying to convince me. I don't know what you mean Lance, because I'm agreeing with them right now. I don't know if that's an insult or compliment. I think you guys misundestood me compleatly. I wasn't talking about Howard in terms of good players, just in general. He is practically undisbutably a one-dimensional player, but that doesn't mean he's bad.

I'm pretty sure defense and hitting are too dimensions, but i could be wrong... :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: Yankee Fans.
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Well there's 4 dimensions and Howard has 2 of them.
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Well there's 4 dimensions and Howard has 2 of them.

I think he ate the other 2. :lol:

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lanceberkman wrote:
Well there's 4 dimensions and Howard has 2 of them.

I think he ate the other 2. :lol:

He actually lost something like 25+ pounds in the off-season. i think Prince Fielder was the one who ate them...

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lanceberkman wrote:
Well there's 4 dimensions and Howard has 2 of them.

I think he ate the other 2. :lol:

He actually lost something like 25+ pounds in the off-season. i think Prince Fielder was the one who ate them...

I might investigate that.

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You can definitely tell Howard lost a lot of weight. His defense has improved a bit as well, after working with Sam Perlozzo during the offseason.
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They're called "5-tool players", not 4 dimensional players. :)
As far as I'm concerned, Howard has 2 tools:
hit for average and hit for power.
He sure as heck doesn't have speed, arm strength isn't that good (as far as I know, i don't really know), and defense, despite this season, isn't exactly that of Fat Albert's.

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 Post subject: Re: Yankee Fans.
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Howard hit .250 last year. .268 the yer before that. He's hitting .263 this year. That's not really contact hitting.....
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Thought his MVP campaign was better... It probably was, but still.
That means he's basically a 1-trick pony (but not like a Willy Taveras 1-trick pony :wink: eww.)

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Thought his MVP campaign was better... It probably was, but still.
That means he's basically a 1-trick pony (but not like a Willy Taveras 1-trick pony :wink: eww.)

:P (that's intended to be sticking my tongue out in disgust.) gross.
Okay:
Arm: FIRST BASEMEN! He doesn't need arm strength!
Speed: We all know the big man can't run. Get over it.
Power: Need i say anything
Fielding: His fielding has gotten pretty good, c'mon, give him some credit, he worked hard on hit.
Contact: Yeah, he might strike out 200 times, but he might hit 55 homers. If he cuts down a little, it would be great.

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catcher51 wrote:
stevenjackson39 wrote:
Thought his MVP campaign was better... It probably was, but still.
That means he's basically a 1-trick pony (but not like a Willy Taveras 1-trick pony :wink: eww.)

:P (that's intended to be sticking my tongue out in disgust.) gross.
Okay:
Arm: FIRST BASEMEN! He doesn't need arm strength!
Speed: We all know the big man can't run. Get over it.
Power: Need i say anything
Fielding: His fielding has gotten pretty good, c'mon, give him some credit, he worked hard on hit.
Contact: Yeah, he might strike out 200 times, but he might hit 55 homers. If he cuts down a little, it would be great.

At least his fielding is better than most 1st basemen like Jason Giambi.

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