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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 7:37 pm 
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that guy is insane, thanks man


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Even if his price limits his usefullness, I had a great time putting him together. Just wish I had planned for that Intimidator ability.... :(


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Yeah, but custom pitch is waaaaaaaaay cooler than a regular one. Adds a lil' bit of personal pizazz.

On the topic of cheap players, if you bench a guy for most of the season, he'll be a harder to re-sign during contract renewal. At least for me, and I've read it on GameFaqs, those players aren't happy with the way they're played and like reality, they want more.

How quickly does practice upgrade a player (say - one letter grade or mph, etc.) - with only a basic item or none at all?

One another note: Dave Stewart's pitch is more of a shuuto than the slider/cutter given its direction, but I get your point. I'll be interested to see how Wyl's pitch for Nolan Ryan - the K'Boom, an upgraded curveball - looks.
Also, I've made at a half-dozen pitchers with no dad training, despite following the recommended path, compare this to Cobretti - whose pitchers all have a special pitch - at least the ones that are posted, but you get the point.

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This is including spring training and if you have them do it the whole year including playoffs. Power you can get maybe 5, this is for A level power. The lower the, the easier it is to level up. Fielding you will increase by 1 in arm str, fld, e res. Trajectory will go up one plus halfway up the next level. Contact can go up 3 or 4 more with regular playing time. Run speed will go up 2. MPH will go up 1 or 2. Control is the same with power. Stamina is the same with power. Increased breaking balls you can get an increase of 2 or 3.

On custom pitches: Even though ryan's pitch is great, he struggles in comparison to other success players because of his lack of other breaking balls and to have one pitch that is increased that much, he probably save/reloaded tons of times to get dad to come around. The best combinations IMO are splitter with the knuckler. Slurve with the slow curve. They break in the same direction, but have different speeds so it fools hitters much more.

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I usually go with three other pitches, one level 7 vertical pitch (Fosh, Fork, etc.), one level 7 diagonal or horizontal pitch (H-Shuuto, Screwball, etc.) and a level 3 downward moving pitch (Change, 2-Seamer). This is for relievers, though. I'm not good enough to get these things in addition to A stamina, unless I knock down my fastball more than 5 mph to around 95. But I think these combos work flawlessly - especially with my cherished goggles.

Control doesn't seem to be that important at all. I can barely tell the difference between a C and an A. Not like stamina where it results in a 5-inning difference. Can anyone argue otherwise?

How did you ever get guys that good with the Ring??!?!?!

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Control doesn't make a difference when you're playing, but it makes a huge difference when you're doing season mode. I will use that combo for all of my pitchers because of how effective it is. Use Odawali's method. You may have to gamble on 10%, but it is amazingly effective. For stamina, 190 is good and anything more is a waste. With that much stamina my guy usually gives me a complete game every time when simming. Instead of using a change, use knuckler or a vertical slider or splitter. Shuuto isn't very good I think. I would rather have a slider because I think it has much more movement.

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Highest K/IP ever F. Hernandez 2.37!!

6th Year Posada-.534/.591/.762 405 H, 70 2B, 14 3B, 25 HR, 393 RBI, 2.39 BB/K, 91 SB, 1.353 OPS.


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I think that some pitches use less points than others, but I didn't think of that. I used the changeup for my first guy because he had already started with a level one change, it would've been a waste to leave it at that. I felt level 3 was good enough.

Shuuto moves in the opposite direction, and I felt like trying out pitches I haven't used before. Regular sliders are boring, every pitcher in season mode has one. I'll try a v-slider or knuckleball, though. I haven't seen many pitchers with those - I actually can think of only Wakefield.

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A SIFB or a SNK/H-SNK will get the reverse movement that you want without going to the Shuuto, I personally use the Hard Sinker, more of a reversed curveball or Drop Curve.

Knuckleballers like Wakefield are almost unique in the majors. Check this quote on wikipedia:

Ron Luciano, former AL umpire wrote:
"Like some cult religion that barely survives, there has always been at least one but rarely more than five or six devotees throwing the knuckleball in the big leagues... Not only can't pitchers control it, hitters can't hit it, catchers can't catch it, coaches can't coach it, and most pitchers can't learn it. The perfect pitch."


Because if a KN's 'erratic' motion, it's one of those, touch-and-go kind of pitches, it's either working, or it's not and it's a flattened out foshball. Wakefield will either baffle batters all day or be pounded, hard.

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In the game, the knuckler is pretty easy in controlling it. I think it has the latest break out of any pitch in the game. It looks like it's a few inches away from the plate and it just drops.

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About control, yeah I just noticed that. In success mode heading into the eighth inning as captain, I found that my reliever with C control had walked 4 batters in less than 2 innings.

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I was referring to more of the RL knuckler rather than the game knuckler, which doesn't impress me. I can hit poor Timmy all day in game :D

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Ok, just added the guy I was talking about to the Wiki. You guys should add yours there too. My Pitcher and Fielder are a bit lonely over there! Just post screenshots of the password if you're too lazy to type it out like me. God I need a digital camera.... too much work posting those pws. haha

http://www.glenridgeposse.com/mlbpp/wik ... n_Wilshere


Edit: A bit of an update - my plan for this guy isn't going so well. While simulating, my guy with E contact is batting over .400! haha I can only imagine once his contact rating goes up.


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I think I've got something rare - a player with a blue "Genius" plate where it usually says Normal. Basically in Pawapuro lore a Genius (shouldn't be confused with the Genius title you get from Annie's story arc) is an extremely rare case where you get high initial stats and Gd Sense with no negatives. I've played several Japanese installments of this series and this is still like the third Genius I've ever had.

For this guy I started out with 83mph 2CB 1SFB D control and E stamina and Gd Sense. I think for position players the stats will be mostly Ds and Es with Gd Sense.

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Stats: 105mph 192 control 205 stamina, 6/7/7/5/7 all blue pitching abilities except Recovery, Durability and Intimidator. Managed to avoid Star!
An added bonus is that he's left-handed with a funky side arm delivery (P. Neshek)
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Nice. If only if you played on the wii.... Those are some sick starting stats though. I had a genius in Cano and he had poor sense stats with 9 fielding but only 3 e res.

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.03 ERA. 286.1 IP 32-0 27 Shutouts 28 CG.
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Highest K/IP ever F. Hernandez 2.37!!

6th Year Posada-.534/.591/.762 405 H, 70 2B, 14 3B, 25 HR, 393 RBI, 2.39 BB/K, 91 SB, 1.353 OPS.


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My success player Gaia is Genius too....
Starting stats were Trj 1, Con 4, Pwr 62, RunSpd 8, ArmStr 6, Fld 6, ERes 4 and Gd Sense.
I started out with Gd Sense/Gd Stats, the first time I had ever seen it in over a hundred tries. But I assumed the Genius was gotten from either bookworm level 4 or getting the highest grade in the class on your finals.


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Ah sorry I must have missed that then.

I didn't date Annie for that character, but I did get my Bookwork up to Lv 4. But I'm pretty sure the plate has to do with the rare starting stats as lots of my "Normal" guys have dated Annie and/or had great academic achievements.

In other Pawapuro games the plate for Genius types would be in gold to add to the "prestige" but I guess not for MLB PP.

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