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Author:  Wulftown [ Fri Jan 25, 2008 11:28 am ]
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How do you help with a players fatigue? It seems that older players get fatigued easier. I've been putting them in Rest during practice and that helps some. So does giving them days off but I can't bench them the whole season.

In practice under rest, does anyone know the difference between fitness and rehab? I assume rehab is for injured players.
Author:  DarkShade [ Fri Jan 25, 2008 1:04 pm ]
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I'm not sure, though I have run through my rotation a few times and I've never had to put anyone on rest. Just not playing them gives them the vitality to play again, but I could be wrong
Author:  Wulftown [ Fri Jan 25, 2008 1:12 pm ]
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Some of my pitchers have been skipped b/c they were too fatigued to start and I have 6 in the rotation! I guess I'm leaving them out there too long (I am playing most of the games instead of simulating them).
Author:  DarkShade [ Fri Jan 25, 2008 1:13 pm ]
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I usually play them until they visibly fatigued and pull them out, which is on average about 6-7 innings.
Author:  MaxDSterling [ Fri Jan 25, 2008 8:13 pm ]
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Ditto, you can also pull a Grady Little and rest older regulars every 2 weeks as needed.

I usually give my catcher a day off once a month, I found it helps avoid the 2nd half slump,

For Pitchers, like dark, I just watch for when he starts showing it. I also adjust my rotation to keep breaking ball pitchers on standard rest while giving hurlers an extra day or two.
Author:  PowerProsFTW [ Tue Mar 18, 2008 12:02 pm ]
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I can't understand this fatigue thing in this game. I've been playing as the Mets in season mode and I play just about ever game. Now listen to this (ZOMG), I've also noticed that older players seem to fatigue very fast but there is a HUGE exception that is going on in my game. I'm currently in a 53 game hitting streak with Moses Alou (he's 40 years old) and I've played him in just about every game this season... I've played over 53 games. His fatigue is super low. Like he barely has fatigue.

Also to add to this, Jose Valentine (38 years old) is almost exactly the same. He doesn't have the outstanding hitting streak but he is hitting really well. He also doesn't get any breaks during the season. Both batters have unbelievable batting averages .550+ Another constant that they have in common is that during the first week of the season I sent both of them to practice their run speeds in the practice option in season mode, but not as a group. They've been in that since then.

Now on the same token, Jose Reyes is maxed out with fatigue and so is Carlos Beltran. But I can understand why Carlos Beltran is tired, I hit over 46 home runs with him in the first two months... 130RBI's. :lol:

BTW, Hello everyone! My first post 8)
Author:  Wulftown [ Tue Mar 18, 2008 2:59 pm ]
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I have noticed that it definitely affects some players more than others. MY example is that I play with the Braves and John Smoltz (age 40+ in the game) is almost never fatigued and Tim Hudson (much younger) is often fatigued, even when using a 6 player rotation. Chipper Jones is always fatigued.

What I have done for the top players that get fatigued often is to just put them in Fitness Rest in practice but still have them play the games. If their fatigue still doesn't go down I will Rest them during practice and give them a day or 2 off. Open dates are nice opportunities to put your player(s) in Rest.
Author:  DarkShade [ Tue Mar 18, 2008 3:11 pm ]
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Is Fatigue the little bar next to the player's name in Practice if you hit the (-) button?
Author:  J-Gao [ Tue Mar 18, 2008 9:43 pm ]
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I'd assume players w/higher stamina, don't get fatigued as much, which may be why Smoltz does better than Hudson (but I'm not sure if he does have better stamina). Of course, this doesn't help with fielders - so it must have something to do with the recovery, consistency, and/or durability abilities.

I've never really noticed this problem, as I sim through most of the season. Across 3 seasons, I've only had one or two 3-day injuries. Then again, I have an expansion player with A stamina and Control as my swingman.
Author:  MaxDSterling [ Wed Mar 19, 2008 12:23 am ]
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Also, smoltz is no hurler, and doesn't rely (and you shouldn't either) on his speed to strike batters out. Guys who rely solely on their raw power to get hits, make plays, strike guys out, will always wear quickly and recover slow.
Author:  J-Gao [ Wed Mar 19, 2008 5:50 am ]
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Yeah, I was thinking that, too. But if it all works like that, then peavy or beckett wouldn't last all that long either.
Author:  Wulftown [ Wed Mar 19, 2008 9:25 am ]
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Yeah you can see the players fatigue if you press the (-) button in practice.


I really think it has more to do with durability, recovery, and consistency abilities rather than stamina or power when it comes to pitchers. Hudson and Smoltz's stamina are about the same. Smoltz never has any fatigue.

I never thought about guys who rely on power. But I don't see Hudson as a "power" pitcher.

My fielders that fatigue quickly are Andruw Jones, Chipper Jones and Edgar Rentaria
Author:  gymteacher [ Thu Mar 20, 2008 11:27 pm ]
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I give up on trying to figure it out. I have nearly two identical outfielders and one is always fatigue and other barely sweats. I need a quicker fix to the problem than putting the tired one in aaa for 10 days.
Author:  J-Gao [ Fri Mar 21, 2008 12:00 am ]
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All I can think of is using the rest option in practice, and sitting out the player in games. Is there equipment to make rest more effective? I would guess that Powerin, Hot Dog, and Sunflower Seeds should do it in real life, but I think they're for other training.
Author:  mrsims31 [ Thu Apr 03, 2008 8:35 am ]
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There's been a lot of talk about specific players that are easily fatigued. What about positions? Has anyone noticed that a specific position has more fatigued players? (Besides pitchers obviously)
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