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Author:  jag123jg [ Thu Dec 25, 2014 10:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Zack Wheeler - Mets (Wii)
going off of robhallet's version with current stats:

Top speed 97 MPH
control 90-105 (3.8 BB/9 in 2014, 4.1 in 2013... I'm gonna bump it up 5 points so he's not border line G in control)
stamina 138-142 (But he did have 1 complete game in 2014, 0 in 2013)

2-Seam Fastball 1-2
Slider (described as a Cutter, so either one could work 2-3 range for each)
Curveball 3-4
Changeup 1.... (maybe 2?)

Abilities:
Gd Low Pitch
Recovery 4
Fastball Life 4 (described to have good movement)
Groundball Pitcher (54% groundball percentage in 2014, 43.2% in 2013, career is at an even 50.0% I'll give him the benefit of the doubt)
Dr. K (Maybe, depends on how I play. I won't be going for it though, it'll have to come naturally... 9.1 K/9 in 2014, 7.6 in 2013. deGrom was a beast with K's after he came back from his injury in August, that's why I gave it to him)
W/RISP 4? (LOOK BELOW)

Other notes:
He had a 72.9% strand rate in 2014 (32 starts), technically that's higher than 72% (the threshold we agreed on for normal strand rate which means any rate under 72.0% would make the pitcher have W/RISP 3-->neutral) which would constitute W/RISP 4.... BUT in 2013 (smaller sample size, 17 starts) it was 77.8%. So I guess I could give it to him.

Once again, it would be very helpful if you guys gave feedback, thanks again :)
Author:  LetsGoMets77 [ Thu Dec 25, 2014 11:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Zack Wheeler - Mets (Wii)
Oh glory, hallelujah, thank the dearest lord, someone is taking up my Zack Wheeler request! :lol: ! Thanks so much, jag123jg. Are there any players I can make for you to even this out?
Author:  jag123jg [ Thu Dec 25, 2014 11:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Zack Wheeler - Mets (Wii)
You don't need to repay me anything haha. I'm just waiting for more people to give feedback so we can come to a conclusion on how he should be made
Author:  LetsGoMets77 [ Fri Dec 26, 2014 12:05 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Zack Wheeler - Mets (Wii)
I think robhallett's version was great, but it was made before he was in the Majors, so some abilities might have to be increased.
Author:  AgentP [ Fri Dec 26, 2014 12:09 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Zack Wheeler - Mets (Wii)
I wouldn't give him Groundball P, 50% is good but not good enough in my opinion to warrant that ability.

Never trust Wikipedia's "scouting reports".
Author:  jag123jg [ Fri Dec 26, 2014 12:14 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Zack Wheeler - Mets (Wii)
AgentP wrote:
I wouldn't give him Groundball P, 50% is good but not good enough in my opinion to warrant that ability.

Never trust Wikipedia's "scouting reports".


Okay, we'll throw away Groundball Pitcher for now
and hahahaha we'll get rid of the 2 seam fastball then
Author:  AgentP [ Fri Dec 26, 2014 10:22 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Zack Wheeler - Mets (Wii)
Here's what I have for Wheeler, after actually looking at his Fangraphs and such:

Top Speed - 98.5 mph (round down to 98, based on where he sits generally)
Control - F. maybe a low E.
Stamina - low B.

2SFB 1 (so Wikipedia actually was right!)
DCB 3 (gets a lot of groundballs, and a lot of whiffs)
SLD 1 (pretty meh pitch, though 30.1% K rate is nice)
CHG 3 (could maybe be a CCHG?)

Recovery 4 (always)
Strong Finisher (he has 3 career CG in the pros, all were shutouts)
AVOID VS LH BATTER 4! (he sucks against lefties, esp. compared to righties)
w/RISP 4 (based on your notes, plus his BAA drops 30 points with RISP)

I vote no on Fastball Life 4 and Groundball P; Dr. K would be nice but not a must-have
Author:  Alloutwar [ Fri Dec 26, 2014 10:34 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Zack Wheeler - Mets (Wii)
Yeah if i were making him I'd have:

Top Speed 98, he hit 98.5 and averaged 94.5 this season
CTRL 90-100
STAM 138-140, he's not finishing the 6th most times out.

Pitch types per fan graphs:
Curveball 3-4 seems good, scouts rate it as his best pitch and it moves
SLD 1 (seriously so little movement)
2SFB 1-2 or SIFB 2-3. I would probably go with SIFB since movement is more lateral than vertical.
CHG 1-2

Avoid Vs Lefty 4 - seriously lefties hit him like .030 points higher, its a huge weakness. Walk every lefty you see!
career GB % 50%, not enough for GB pitcher probably
K/9 is 8.5 career, it hovered around 10 in the early minors but I don't see him getting there in MLB, so DR. K is out for me
strand rate is 74.6 for his career, but he was just average in his only full season, so no RISP adjustment for me
His WHIP is high, especially for the NL pitching...I would consider a red ability like Sandbag so a few more bottom-of-the-order types get on base to reflect this
Also a red ability like Walk, thats a really high BB/9 rate.

If you get some blues or are too dominant, I would go ahead and grab both reds. Heck you can pick them both up and them buy out of one at the end if you need to.

Fastball Life 2 might be a good option too, since he has huge MPH but it gets hit a lot.
Author:  jag123jg [ Fri Dec 26, 2014 1:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Zack Wheeler - Mets (Wii)
This is what I got from both of you guys:

Top Speed 98 MPH
Control 90-100
Stamina 138-140

2 Seam Fastball 1-2
Slider 1
Curveball 3-4
Changeup 1-2

Abilities:
W/RISP 4 (His strand rate numbers look good enough to me)
Recovery 4
Sandbag
Walk

"he sucks against lefties" "Avoid Vs Lefty 4 - seriously lefties hit him like .030 points higher, its a huge weakness. Walk every lefty you see!"
"His WHIP is high, especially for the NL pitching...I would consider a red ability like Sandbag"
Author:  jag123jg [ Mon Dec 29, 2014 3:16 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Zack Wheeler - Mets (Wii)
He was, in some ways, a lot harder to make than Kershaw; believe it or not. Had to intentially tank in all the AAA games to prevent getting Poise 4 and VS Lefty 4. Meanwhile I was scrapping to get points to get his fastball to 98 MPH, and at the same time I needed to get scout eval without the help of games. And the Wild Jokers had about 7 lefties on their team so it took me a while to get through the final AA game. But here he is!
Sorry if the skills picture is a little blurry.

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Author:  LetsGoMets77 [ Mon Dec 29, 2014 9:09 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Zack Wheeler - Mets (Wii)
This is great! Thanks so much for finishing him! We now have a Mets Success rotation! You made Wheeler and deGrom, and AOW made Gee, Niese and Colon! There's also a Harvey somewhere...
Author:  jag123jg [ Mon Dec 29, 2014 11:31 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Zack Wheeler - Mets (Wii)
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picture link is below the skill set.
Author:  Alloutwar [ Mon Dec 29, 2014 11:44 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Zack Wheeler - Mets (Wii)
all real-life Wii players are linked on the Wiki page in my sig, from Wheeler to Harvey included. :)
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