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Jon Jay - OF - Cardinals - Wii (COMPLETE)
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Author:  dishnet34 [ Tue Nov 25, 2014 4:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Jon Jay - OF - Cardinals - Wii (COMPLETE)
On to the next player I'm helping AOW complete on his project, Jon Jay of the Cardinals. Now, I'm in no means familiar with this player, and haven't seen him often enough to compile a good enough scouting report, but I'll try to do my best to make an accurate representation of him. Roughly, from looking at his stats, I have in mind this:

TRJ: 2
CON: D 9 - C 10
PWR: Low-Mid E
RUN: C
ARM: E 7 - D 8
FLD: C (I did look at UZR and DRS, and they didn't look good, but this is just a guess)
E-RES: C 11 - B 12

I'll need a little more advice on his abilities (PPJ? AOW? Rob?) before I can really settle on raw abilities and special abilities for him, but that's what I have, and I await helpful responses.
Author:  Alloutwar [ Tue Nov 25, 2014 5:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Jon Jay - OF - Cardinals - Wii (PLANNING)
Thanks Dish! Glad you can crank out hitters while I toil away at pitchers, urgh.

So Jon Jay is a decent OFer, but not a starter on most clubs.

CON - .295 career BA, his best skill arguably, pretty solid 10 by Aaronator's scale - but again, hit 9 and then wait in case blues make a difference.
PWR - yeah E land here. His career high is 10, which borders on D, but that hasn't been repeated. So I'd be hitting 98-105 maybe?
Speed - 62% steal success rate. His 19 was kind of an outlier...I think he's a safe 10, but AVOID base stealing 4 like the dickens. Career high of 27 doubles, 4 triples...you could push for 11 but I would keep him at 10 I think, aggressive runner is fine tho.
Check this link out for fielding: http://www.cardsconclave.com/2013/06/22 ... h-jon-jay/
Based on that I go with:
Arm E (6-7)
FLD D (8-9)
E RES C/B (11-12)

Good pinch hitter works, his OPS is a lot better as a sub than as a starter (.788 to .753)
No clutch-worthy stuff really, IMO
One remarkable thing is that, despite being a lefty batter, he hits lefties pretty well. So Vs Lefty 4 is fine to get IMO

I would make him a CF'er first, then LF and RF

That's all I got I think. He's like a serviceable 4th OFer, maybe a pinch running upgrade, but he's started too much in STL from what I can see.
Author:  Baseballteen9500 [ Tue Nov 25, 2014 5:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Jon Jay - OF - Cardinals - Wii (PLANNING)
Gold glover? Maybe
Author:  dishnet34 [ Tue Nov 25, 2014 5:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Jon Jay - OF - Cardinals - Wii (PLANNING)
I'm not thinking about Gold Glover. I'd think, to even consider whether or not someone should get Gold Glover, someone should've actually won the award first. Then, discuss the merits of how he won that award. Was it just because of his bat, or were there actual good defensive metrics to back that up on a defensive angle?

So, in a roundabout way, I'm staying away from Gold Glover.
Author:  robhallett [ Tue Nov 25, 2014 11:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Jon Jay - OF - Cardinals - Wii (PLANNING)
I had similar stats only I also had Gd Bunt and aggressive run
Author:  PowerPro Jr [ Wed Nov 26, 2014 12:33 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Jon Jay - OF - Cardinals - Wii (PLANNING)
Everyone else pretty much covered it, though I would also recommend getting Spray Hitter for him.
Author:  aar0nat0r [ Wed Nov 26, 2014 12:46 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Jon Jay - OF - Cardinals - Wii (PLANNING)
He's definitely a spray hitter, and anything over D for fielding is too high
Author:  dishnet34 [ Wed Nov 26, 2014 7:17 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Jon Jay - OF - Cardinals - Wii (PLANNING)
So, from what I see, the ability list should go a little like this:

Vs. LH 4 (Still debating this, his splits don't really scream this to me, but maybe as a last-minute ability)
Gd Pinch Hitter
Gd Bunt
Spray Hitter
Aggressive Run

I'll probably start sometime this afternoon, after I get out of work for the day. Thanks for the advice.
Author:  Alloutwar [ Wed Nov 26, 2014 8:22 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Jon Jay - OF - Cardinals - Wii (PLANNING)
yeah the Vs Lefty 4 is just one of those "don't reload if you get it" abilities, really...its not mandatory, but it is surprising that Jay hits so well against lefties. A lot of lefty pitchers are going to have Vs Lefty 4, so Jay having it kind of neutralizes it.

Good luck!
Author:  dishnet34 [ Wed Nov 26, 2014 10:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Jon Jay - OF - Cardinals - Wii (COMPLETE?)
OK, Jay is perfectly done, but I screwed up the birth year (again). Apparently age 23 and a 3/15 birth date equals 1984 in their book, and not 1985 (someone please explain to me the mechanics of this god-forsaken thing before I derp up another player like this). Either way, here he is:

Positions: CF/LF/RF
B/T: L/L
Uni: #19

TRJ: 2
CON: D 9
PWR: E 92
RUN: C 10
ARM: E 6
FLD: D 8
E-RES: C 11

Abilities:
Spray Hitter
Gd Bunt
Gd Pinch Hitter
Vs. Lefty 4 (Mostly as a gambe near the end, just to see if it'll work, and voila)
Aggressive Run

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Author:  aar0nat0r [ Wed Nov 26, 2014 10:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Jon Jay - OF - Cardinals - Wii (COMPLETE)
Looks awesome! Great work
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