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 Post subject: Ratings news
PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 7:16 pm 
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For those wondering where they are, the first set of MLBPP 2013 ratings for hitters will be posted tomorrow (Thursday). Defense and pitching will follow in the upcoming weeks.

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 Post subject: Re: 2013 Player Ratings
PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 7:19 pm 
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If you want some help with this I can. I've already finished all the catchers and Firstbasemen ratings.

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 Post subject: Re: 2013 Player Ratings
PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 7:25 pm 
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Awesome, thanks a lot Eric.

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 Post subject: Re: 2013 Player Ratings
PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 7:28 pm 
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ZeroGibson13 wrote:
If you want some help with this I can. I've already finished all the catchers and Firstbasemen ratings.


I really appreciate the offer, but my anal retentive nature won't allow it. Plus, I enjoy putting them together.

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 Post subject: Re: 2013 Player Ratings
PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 7:47 pm 
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Ok then, I can't wait to see your ratings,

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 Post subject: Re: 2013 Player Ratings
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 Post subject: Re: 2013 Player Ratings
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Ratings will be delayed 24 hours due to my anniversary, which I nearly forgot. Yikes!

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That would be bad.

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 Post subject: Re: 2013 Player Ratings
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New to the forums and was just wondering what these ratings will be based upon? Im really interested in the process if any one has the time to explain it.

PS: Go Giants !!!!


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 Post subject: Re: 2013 Player Ratings
PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 5:57 pm 
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josephthepriest wrote:
New to the forums and was just wondering what these ratings will be based upon? Im really interested in the process if any one has the time to explain it.

PS: Go Giants !!!!


Short explanation: 2- and 3-year regressed aggregate based on indicative rate stats.

Slightly longer explanation: Stats are obtained from FanGraphs, Baseball-Reference, Baseball Prospectus, Texas Leaguers, and other sites, then boiled down on an Excel spreadsheet with applied standard deviations and replacement level regression. So, for SPD, I might apply stdev & regression to speed score, various SB rates, 3B%, IFH%, and a number of other stats so they are on par with one another, then combine them into an aggregate score, which I then use to determine the MLBPP SPD rating for each player. We know the MLBPP 2008 default roster features 6 players with 14 SPD, 9 players with 13 SPD, 67 players with 12 SPD, etc so I try to keep the distribution similar, but not necessarily exact.

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 Post subject: Re: 2013 Player Ratings
PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 7:04 pm 
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josephthepriest wrote:
New to the forums and was just wondering what these ratings will be based upon? Im really interested in the process if any one has the time to explain it.

PS: Go Giants !!!!


Short explanation: 2- and 3-year regressed aggregate based on indicative rate stats.

Slightly longer explanation: Stats are obtained from FanGraphs, Baseball-Reference, Baseball Prospectus, Texas Leaguers, and other sites, then boiled down on an Excel spreadsheet with applied standard deviations and replacement level regression. So, for SPD, I might apply stdev & regression to speed score, various SB rates, 3B%, IFH%, and a number of other stats so they are on par with one another, then combine them into an aggregate score, which I then use to determine the MLBPP SPD rating for each player. We know the MLBPP 2008 default roster features 6 players with 14 SPD, 9 players with 13 SPD, 67 players with 12 SPD, etc so I try to keep the distribution similar, but not necessarily exact.


Very conclusively done. Although the stat collection is vital, i would have to say keeping the game balanced (by keeping distribution similar like you are doing) is just as important, so i tip my hat to you doing that.

Always fascinating to see the methods by which rating are given in sports games.

PS: So im guessing miggy will be the ordonez equivalent in this update?


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 Post subject: Re: 2013 Player Ratings
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Eric Davis 44 wrote:
josephthepriest wrote:
New to the forums and was just wondering what these ratings will be based upon? Im really interested in the process if any one has the time to explain it.

PS: Go Giants !!!!


Short explanation: 2- and 3-year regressed aggregate based on indicative rate stats.

Slightly longer explanation: Stats are obtained from FanGraphs, Baseball-Reference, Baseball Prospectus, Texas Leaguers, and other sites, then boiled down on an Excel spreadsheet with applied standard deviations and replacement level regression. So, for SPD, I might apply stdev & regression to speed score, various SB rates, 3B%, IFH%, and a number of other stats so they are on par with one another, then combine them into an aggregate score, which I then use to determine the MLBPP SPD rating for each player. We know the MLBPP 2008 default roster features 6 players with 14 SPD, 9 players with 13 SPD, 67 players with 12 SPD, etc so I try to keep the distribution similar, but not necessarily exact.


Very conclusively done. Although the stat collection is vital, i would have to say keeping the game balanced (by keeping distribution similar like you are doing) is just as important, so i tip my hat to you doing that.

Always fascinating to see the methods by which rating are given in sports games.

PS: So im guessing miggy will be the ordonez equivalent in this update?


No players will have CON 15. Too powerful. I can't remember the specifics, but I ran a bunch of simulations with generic players and I think CON 13 is a pretty consistent .330 hitter without too many blue/green abilities, and Miggy will definitely have his share of blue/green abilities. When I created my 80's league, Wade Boggs had CON 14 offset w/ VsLefty2, and Tony Gwynn had CON 13, and there is a hitter equivalent to either of those guys right now.

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 Post subject: Re: 2013 Player Ratings
PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 7:24 pm 
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No players will have CON 15. Too powerful. I can't remember the specifics, but I ran a bunch of simulations with generic players and I think CON 13 is a pretty consistent .330 hitter without too many blue/green abilities, and Miggy will definitely have his share of blue/green abilities. When I created my 80's league, Wade Boggs had CON 14 offset w/ VsLefty2, and Tony Gwynn had CON 13, and there is a hitter equivalent to either of those guys right now.


Well you know much more about this stuff than i do, so im sure it will make for a better game this way. Just thought it was amazing taking ordonez and covering half the strikezone with his contact size.

Btw hope playoff heroics count, as my giants would get a couple of extra points that way (scutaro ftw !!)


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