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 Post subject: David Justice's case.
PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 10:03 pm 
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You all have heard about it, Kirk Radomski claims Justice bought steroids and HGH from him.
I believe Justice's side though, and here's why:

1. Radomski said in the Mitchell Report that he bought steroids, but now he says Justice bought steroids and HGH.
2. Why would Justice go to an airport and get on a plane with steroids if he could have had it delivered?
3. Radomski doesn't have any other details about his "experiences" w/ Justice. (e.g. Who went to the airport w/ Justice, if anybody?, etc.)

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 Post subject: Re: David Justice's case.
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I'm real tired of the Mitchell Report and steroids crap. They need to shut up, find the guys who look like they're useing em, test them, ban them or punish, and move on. I'm sick of all the stupid steroids talk :!:

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 Post subject: Re: David Justice's case.
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1. a few people have said this, but many of the players that were named probably didn't do steroids.
2. I read that for all the superstars indicted (Bonds, clemens), there are dozens of anonymous guys who were struggling to get out of AAA.

And yeah, they need to shut up.

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 Post subject: Re: David Justice's case.
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And yeah, they need to shut up.

Amen. Punsih the guys who did em', and that's that.

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 Post subject: Re: David Justice's case.
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I'm not trying to start this or anything bad,
but wouldn't it be funny to start a march towards the MLB Players office or whatever it is and protest like, just punish them or shut up already. They've been on the sterioid thing for what 6-7yrs? I think they need to just get it over with so the rest of us can get on with our lives.

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 Post subject: Re: David Justice's case.
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I'm not trying to start this or anything bad,
but wouldn't it be funny to start a march towards the MLB Players office or whatever it is and protest like, just punish them or shut up already. They've been on the sterioid thing for what 6-7yrs? I think they need to just get it over with so the rest of us can get on with our lives.

maybe a little :D

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 Post subject: Re: David Justice's case.
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 Post subject: Re: David Justice's case.
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Ptmmtp wrote:
I'm real tired of the Mitchell Report and steroids crap. They need to shut up, find the guys who look like they're useing em, test them, ban them or punish, and move on. I'm sick of all the stupid steroids talk :!:

Well, in a perfect world that might work (Actually, in a perfect world, these guys probably wouldn't need steroids to begin with. And, there would be cheese, hundreds and hundreds of cheeses everywhere! Haha, never mind...). Yet if you want anything done about steroids, then the publicity comes with it. The Mitchell report wasn't run as well as it should have, and the feds way of getting information was a bit shady at best. George Mitchell himself had the right idea and I think baseball should just let it go and focus on testing. Testing has gotten much better, and it is much harder to use steroids now.

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 Post subject: Re: David Justice's case.
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exactly, what else can we do?
the mitchell report was a start, but for the most part it was just a shot in the dark (except for the obvious names, like bonds)

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 Post subject: Re: David Justice's case.
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cownip wrote:
Ptmmtp wrote:
I'm real tired of the Mitchell Report and steroids crap. They need to shut up, find the guys who look like they're useing em, test them, ban them or punish, and move on. I'm sick of all the stupid steroids talk :!:

Well, in a perfect world that might work (Actually, in a perfect world, these guys probably wouldn't need steroids to begin with. And, there would be cheese, hundreds and hundreds of cheeses everywhere! Haha, never mind...).

This is one of the reasons you scare me, cownip. 8) :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: David Justice's case.
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amen.
that comment about the cheese doesnt really match your avatar...

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 Post subject: Re: David Justice's case.
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One of the reasons? haha, I couldn't resist adding it. The Mitchell Report was a stab in the dark? Explain your reasoning. Tons of names were brought up. But I believe, like ex-Senator George Mitchel, that we should honestly let it go and focus on preventing steroid use in the future. The games these guys won for their teams aren't going to be taken back, so why not move past it?

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 Post subject: Re: David Justice's case.
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well, there were so many players (that used and were named, that used and weren't named, and that didn't use and were named,) that it's impossible to name them all.
He was just trying to get a good start on the process of investigation, so he looked at the "most likely" suspects and named them.
of course there had to be some controversy on other players too, and with bunches of other variables, there's no way it could have been more than an educated guess.
plus, he's a politician, which isn't related to baseball (although didn't bush use to own the rangers?)

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cownip wrote:
Ptmmtp wrote:
I'm real tired of the Mitchell Report and steroids crap. They need to shut up, find the guys who look like they're useing em, test them, ban them or punish, and move on. I'm sick of all the stupid steroids talk :!:

Well, in a perfect world that might work (Actually, in a perfect world, these guys probably wouldn't need steroids to begin with. And, there would be cheese, hundreds and hundreds of cheeses everywhere! Haha, never mind...). Yet if you want anything done about steroids, then the publicity comes with it. The Mitchell report wasn't run as well as it should have, and the feds way of getting information was a bit shady at best. George Mitchell himself had the right idea and I think baseball should just let it go and focus on testing. Testing has gotten much better, and it is much harder to use steroids now.


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