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Hi. I'm Gabriel, and I'm new to the forum.

I hate the Yankees, but as a Blue Jays fan, you have to know your enemies in order to defeat them. If I were Girardi, I'd use this lineup:

C Jorge Posada
1B Mark Teixeira
2B Robinson Cano
3B Alex Rodriguez
SS Derek Jeter (man I hate that guy)
LF Hideki Matsui
CF Nick Swisher
RF Xavier Nady/prospect
DH Johnny Damon

As for Burnett, he's wasted money. He will take 2009 as one of his sabbathical DL years, and will be the target of Pavano-like hate from New York, and then he'll be traded for 2010.

yay! A fellow yankee hater! (not sure why i hate them, they aren't in the phills league...oh, wait, they're the yankees. ) Anyway, yeah, that would work/ But definitley Nady, not a prospect. BTW, welcome ot the forums.

I don't hate them because they're on Toronto's divison, I'm from Mexico and that kind of hate doesn't get to me. I hate them because they throw money at their problems, money other teams doesn't have, thus rendering everyone but them out of contention (or so is the plan). Lately, though, it hasn't worked very well for them, for which I'm glad

C Jorge Posada
1B Mark Teixeira
2B Robinson Cano
3B Alex Rodriguez
SS Derek Jeter (man I hate that guy)
LF Hideki Matsui
CF Nick Swisher
RF Xavier Nady/prospect
DH Johnny Damon
Every single player but A-Rod would be different. I don't see how that would work, Posada isn't a lead-off man, he's' a career 270 power hitter (with a fantastic 380 OBP, but still). Oh, and welcome to the forums. Here is what is almost certain to happen if Giradi does what he did last year.
Damon
Jeter
Texiea
A-Rod
Now it's a little more confusing and you can't be sure what Girardi will do. Here is my guess.
Matsui/Posada
Matsui/Posada
Cano
Nady
Now here is something you also be almost certain with.
CF Cabrera/Gardner/Swisher
I'd be pretty surprised if Swisher starts personally.

My list wasn't a batting order, it was the list of starters by position, lol.

Hey Bard. But I hope your right he'd better get injured.

But Guess what? He has a full no trade clause and can't opt out of a contract, so they're stuck with him !!!!

Haha, that makes much more sense. Then the only 2 things I disagree with are center and left. Left I think we can be pretty certain Damon will play, and DH Matsui. Damon has great speed, fantastic fielding and catching ability and a terrible arm. All in all, he's a pretty good fielder and definetly above average. Matsui isn't as good anymore, and he is out of practice. He'd be about average or below average. Now for center, Giradi said before that he doesn't want to use Swisher in Center but in the corners instead. Again, I really see it starting as Cabrera, but with Gardner getting more and more playing time.

I didn't want to say it (and I was still too abrupt about it, sorry haha) but your line-up looked unbelievably stupid where everyone was in the least likely position. Posada as lead-off! Haha, I'm glad I miss-understood.

Don't worry about it, as a Blue Jays fan I'd put Stairs in the lead-off position.

Well, as long as the rotation is healthy, it will be a great one.

And if there are injuries, it will still be a great one. If there are three injuries, (Wang, CC, and Burnett, and yes, knocks on wood) then it will be a bad one. If 2 get injured, its average again (Still got Hughes, Aceves, and Kennedy. One injury and it still is probably the best).

But Hughes has not done very well in the past, off and on good.


Aceves had good short term success, when it came to long term in the majors he started to fall down.

Not to sure about Kennedy. Does he get injured too like Hughes? And isn't he better than Hughes?

Not to sound rude mate (and I know, I am acting a little, but whatever), but what are you talking about? Aceves pitched 4-5 starts last year and had a 2.5 ERA. He only pitched at the very end of the season. He did have good short term success, but he never had time to fall down. There is still a question of how good he is (certainly not a 2.5 ERA pitcher) since he only played such a small time. But his performance certainly deserves at least another glance at him before you write him off.

Hughes was expected to come to the majors for the first time this year or next (2009) year. He didn't pitch well, but it's his stuff and speed that makes him so good. He has the potential and ability, but he hasn't yet performed. While it's possible he will never fufill his potential, I'd say its a safe bet that this guy is a future every-day starter.

Kennedy you really don't know with, he was fantastic the first year, but he too was plagued by injuries. It's mostly mental problems that are screwing him up, but if he can overcome them, he can be a starter. He has a 1.2 ERA in something like 10 starts with the Dominican Winter League, so he's making a good case.

Point is, with the three of these guys on top of Guise, Sanchez, and Igawa (and someone I missed), you got depth. Aceves, Kennedy and Hughes are great number 6, back up starters. There not super-stars, at least not yet, but they certainly do the job. I expect Hughees to be the first called up, then Aceves and then Kennedy, but I could be wrong. A lot depends on Spring Training and there Triple-A Performances. (Aceves was great in the bull-pen too, so he may go back there. I'd say for the long run, that's more likely with Hughes expected to be a future starter. Before Joba came around and CC was signed, he was portrayed as the future ace).

Exactly, he isn't a 2.50ERA pitcher, I mean, he will fall down, he did good, but WILL fall down soon.

Igawa's only 23 right? And Sanchez is Humberto Sanchez right?

What's interesting is the Red Sox and Rays have depth at starting as well.

Red Sox: Justin Masterson, David Pauley, Charlie Zink (Knuckler, there's a nice story behind him) just to name a few.

Rays: Jeff Niemann Obviously now David Price (not clear whether they will keep him Bullpen or Starter) to just name a few again.

Igawa is one of the worst signings in history. Like with Pavano, they offered him the second highest amount of money (He was a strike-out king in Japan), and like Pavano, he wanted to play for the Yankees. He was a complete flop, they can't wait till he's off the team. But he's good for the third or fourth back up of the number 5. And Aceves isn't guranteed to "fall down". He knew he was just on a hot streak, but you don't know what to make of him. He was a nice suprise and a guy who might deserve another chance.
Yes, those three teams have a lot of depth. I'd probably say the Rays have more, but the Yanks definetly have more then the Sox. Oh, and Price will definetly be a starter, that's what the management said.
Oh, and your right about Sanchez. I don't know much about him.