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 Post subject: Re: Man-Ram, Big Papi Jucied in 03
PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 1:59 pm 
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the list should've never came out,, as soon as A-Rod's names came out, all 103 names want to be released and they can't do it all at the same time


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 Post subject: Re: Man-Ram, Big Papi Jucied in 03
PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 2:33 pm 
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Just like to add that Donald Fehr told all the players on the list they tested positive, including Ortiz, A-Rod, and whoever else is on the list.

The players saying they didn't know they were on the list is a bunch of BS.


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 Post subject: Re: Man-Ram, Big Papi Jucied in 03
PostPosted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 1:11 pm 
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ortiz said that he didn't take streoids


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 Post subject: Re: Man-Ram, Big Papi Jucied in 03
PostPosted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 1:29 pm 
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because he wants to make himself look good he took steroids he tested positive get over it


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 Post subject: Re: Man-Ram, Big Papi Jucied in 03
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if he's doing this then he better be telling the truth or else he's gonna get grilledlike ronnie on 2kforums


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 Post subject: Re: Man-Ram, Big Papi Jucied in 03
PostPosted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 1:37 pm 
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somebody's sick of all this talk... :roll:


papi's still good though.
he had the talent before he juiced, minnesota's small ball approach was keeping him down.
he's still a a fantastic clubhouse influence, and he's still a great power hitter.
i also happened to notice that you're a yanks fan...

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 Post subject: Re: Man-Ram, Big Papi Jucied in 03
PostPosted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 1:38 pm 
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now they have to release all the names


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 Post subject: Re: Man-Ram, Big Papi Jucied in 03
PostPosted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 1:38 pm 
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if he's doing this then he better be telling the truth or else he's gonna get grilledlike ronnie on 2kforums

Grilled by who? Boston loves him.

Manny seems to be ignoring his steriod thing. It doesnt seems like LA really cares.

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 Post subject: Re: Man-Ram, Big Papi Jucied in 03
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he'll never get grilled by boston, other fans will get all over him


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 Post subject: Re: Man-Ram, Big Papi Jucied in 03
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david ortiz was a terrible player in minnesota and when he came to boston he was a great player so you have to start getting suspicious and now we know he took them


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 Post subject: Re: Man-Ram, Big Papi Jucied in 03
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Me_and_Lucy wrote:
Manny seems to be ignoring his steriod thing. It doesnt seems like LA really cares.

it was the same way with *GASP* Barry Bonds.
everyone except the Giants' fans hated him.

and no, he couldn't swing for the fences in minnesota like he can in boston because that wasn't minnesota's style.
they wanted him to play small ball and crap instread of showcasing his power.
it's like in football, a quarterback may play well in the west coast offense (short passes), but in a run n' gun offense (running and long passes), he may struggle.

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 Post subject: Re: Man-Ram, Big Papi Jucied in 03
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i never thought of that

I read in a book that Ortiz made that he had never had a chance to show his power because they wanted him to move the runner over, go oppisite field and etc

and then he said that Boston wanted him to swing out of his shoes


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 Post subject: Re: Man-Ram, Big Papi Jucied in 03
PostPosted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 1:48 pm 
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yeah, it was in Feeding the Monster by Seth Mnookin.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 1:49 pm 
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yeah that still doesnt hide the fact that he tested positive for PEDs


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 Post subject: Re: Man-Ram, Big Papi Jucied in 03
PostPosted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 1:51 pm 
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Wait, is Manny going to have a news conference like ortiz?

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