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Aaron is Right Handed. But it's true if he stays healthy. I hope he beats the Home Run record, I can't stand seeing Bond's name on top of that list. I always wanted that to happen since Barry broke it.

I'm just worried that if A-Rod get's near to it but getting old, he doesn't take steroids beacause he's so close to record. I hope and doubt it won't happen but you never know with ANY baseball player.

I really doubt it. Despite common belief, A-Rod's a pretty decent guy, and he has an insane work ethic. He didn't rise to the top just from raw talent, he works practically the whole off season. He doesn't seem like the guy, and he's already ahead of track so why would he?

Barry Bonds was a great guy too, he was on track to get the record, but what did he do? Steroids.

Mabye Barry Bonds didn't take steriods, the grand jury didn't decide yet. A-Rod won't take steroids. He has MVP type of years every other year. So in 2 years, he gets about 80 HR. He is 200+ HR away, so he needs about 5 seasons more and he will over take Barry Bonds.

Most agree he did, considering he lied to the grand jury.

Oh well, A-Rod will more than likely never beat the true Home Run king of the baseball.


And by the way, you aren't A-rod, you can claim he won't take steriods, people said Sosa wouldn't take steriods but he more than likely did. So you don't know if he will, no matter how great a player. I knew a guy who knew a guy that was great, good grades good life, everything. Then he did drugs. The point is, it can happen to anyone to do drugs.

Are you talking about steorids, because other drugs are very different and a whole nother' conversation. And there are some people, actually many, that are less likely to take steroids, some much more so then others. I think A-Rods one of them. Plus, Soso was no suprise, he should be in the hall-of-fame for cheaters haha. It used to be pretty funny when you heard all his methods before steroids. Remember the corked bat? (Actually, I might be mixing his storys with another guys, so there may only be a few haha).

haha? Taking drugs is taking drugs, whether it be abuse or something.


And again, you aren't A-Rod, you claim he is more than likely not to take steriods, but when his power numbers go down, all it will take will be a little persuation.

First of all, my haha was kind of misquoted, it was about Sami Sosas corked bat and in my mind it was thinking of another story that I wasn't sure if it was him or not, so I wrote what I was thinking without really thinking. It wasn't laughing about drugs.
Second, no, taking drugs is not takiking drugs no matter what it is, that's a little bit ignorant to say.

Finally, as suprising as it may seem, I am actually not A-Rod as you say. But, I think your view of people and human nature is a bit cynical, not everyone would jump for steroids. I don't think that's true, he's an honest, hard-working guy. No one really does work harder today in baseball, and he REALLY doesn't seem like the type. Is there an inkling of a chance?
Sure, but it's not likely at all. He's more likely to get injured for his career as you always say then this. It would take a lot more then a little presusasion, not everyone is that weak or dishonest.

First, I'd like to say that the players in minors work the hardest.

It probably was ignorant it should be abusing drugs.


And I'm not saying A-Rod would take them, but it could happen to him or anyone for that matter. I know he's a great guy and stuff. As you get older, your baseball ethic and mind changes. I hope he doesn't take steroids.

Anyways, I hate the misconception of the Home Run King. It's not Babe Ruth, Hank Aaron or Barry Bonds and it probably won't be A-Rod. Grr, it ticks me off sometimes, but I digress.

about the home run king: what about Sadaharu Oh, who had 868 HR's with 3000 fewer at bats than Aaron in the Japanese League?

and also don't forget Mark McGwire, who had "only" 583 (?) homers but with fewer at bats than any of the others.

Yup, that's the guy, that record is going to stay a good long while. Oh was an amazing player.

Why do you think that's the real homerun king? If A-Rod was in triple A, he would hit that many. Japan is actually about the level of triple a, and when your in an easiar league, there are more likely to be guys who really stand out like that. He certainly wouldn't hit that in the majors. And actually, under modern rules, Ruth would have had more then that (amazing, isn't it?). That's very impressive for Sadharu, but still.

I don't think that in a few years, his work ethic or his personality will change. He's not this great guy, but he's a good and honest guy. I wouldn't say he's a saint or anything, but he probably wouldn't take steorids. Plus, it would be too risky with all the steorids checks.
I think you're wrong about A-Rod not working the hardest. Minor players often work just as hard as the Major Leaguers, they just don't have as much to show for it. Major Leaguers don't slack off once they get to the Majors, and A-Rod tries harder then most Major Leaguers and Minor Leaguers.

Here we go again, overprotective.


Ok, so you are saying Ichiro, Kuroda, Matsui and other Japan players are triple A caliber? No, Sadaharu Oh has the most Home Runs and you can't change that, he owns it get over it.


Japan leagues are good, very very good. I doubt you know much about the Japan league anyways.

I believe the statement about Japan's league being AAA was an average. In any league there are bound to be players who stand out and are obviously better than the norm. Ichiro is easily MLB caliber, and i almost feel sorry for him since he joined the MLB when he was so old that he was no chance of breaking career records he could have set.

Also, even if Sosa had a corked bat, it wouldn't have made much of a difference to his performance. Even though the bat is lighter when corked, the reduced weight would even it out, maybe not exactly, but definitely not by a serious amount.

Are you serious Dr. Mario? Of course there not, are triple a players major league quality? Sometimes, yes, almost all players start in the minors! Let me compare stats in Japan and then the Majors for you. (It's better then triple a, but it's closer to that then the majors)
Year Team AVG HR RBI AB H BB SB
2002 Yomiuri Giants .334 50 107 500 167 112 3

Yankees:
Yr Team G AB R H 2B 3B HR GS RBI BB IBB SO SH SF HBP GIDP AVG OBP SLG
2004 Yankees 162 584 109 174 34 2 31 2 108 88 2 103 0 5 3 11 .298 .390 .522

He never hit more then 25, very different then 50 homers.
Now lets take Ichiro.
SEASON TEAM G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS
2000 Orix 105 395 73 153 22 1 12 73 54 36 21 1 .387 .460 .539 .999
In America
SEASON TEAM G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS
2005 Sea 162 679 111 206 21 12 15 68 48 66 33 8 .303 .350 .436 .786
Again, pretty different, right?
Now lets take Key Igawa
In Japan:
Year Team G W L SV IP K BB HR ERA
2003 Hanshin 29 20 5 0 206.0 179 58 15 2.80

Great 2.8 era to...
Year Team G GS GF W L PCT ERA CG SHO SV IP BFP H ER R HR BB IBB SO WP HBP BK HLD
2007 Yankees 14 12 0 2 3 .400 6.25 0 0 0 67.2 313 76 47 48 15 37 1 53 5 4 1 0
2008 Yankees 2 1 0 0 1 .000 13.50 0 0 0 4.0 24 13 6 6 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Then there's Matsuzaka, who had the smallest difference between both leagues:
Year Team W L SV ERA G IP SO
2006 Seibu Lions 17 5 0 2.13 25 186.1 200

Then
Year Team W L SV ERA G IP SO
2007 Boston Red Sox 15 12 0 4.40 32 204.2 201
2008 Boston Red Sox 18 3 0 2.90 29 167.2 154
Big difference, but not enormus.
Now, let me show you one more. Irabu:

In Japan:
The stats for Irabu were very hard to find and I couldn't find it in organized stats, but in 1996 he had a 2.4 ERA and was 12-6
In America:
Career G GS GF W L PCT ERA CG SHO SV IP BFP H ER R HR BB IBB SO WP HBP BK HLD
6 Years 126 80 28 34 35 .493 5.15 4 2 16 514.0 2,236 547 294 307 91 175 3 405 25 18 6 2
What a difference! Yikes!
So, do you see my point? I took all the best Japanese players in the U.S. and also the two biggest failures (Igawa and Irabu).