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 Post subject: Re: Are the Yankees really that bad?
PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 8:09 pm 
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I hope you weren't talking about catcher, cownip, because it's right there.


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 Post subject: Re: Are the Yankees really that bad?
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Cownip? I never said that, that was SteveJackson. I think he's talking about Damon, who just went for money. Manny isn't insane, I actually think he has ADHD.

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 Post subject: Re: Are the Yankees really that bad?
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 Post subject: Re: Are the Yankees really that bad?
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2008 Yanks:
Horrible Pitching
Wang injured
Kennedy and Hughs sucked
Picked up Ponson who was horrible
Joba didnt really porform as a starter
only good thing was Mariano was great

Un-Clutch Line-Up:
A-Rod started off nicely hitting .335 at one point then he slowed down big time and was horrible in the clutch
Posada- injured
Cano-started off horible
Damon- outstanding, fit up to the standard
Jeter- hit .270 at one point. picked up the pase and finished at 300\
Giambi- washed up piece of crap that cant hit
Matsui- Injured but i still dnt like his hitting

2009 Yankees:
Amazing Pitching:
Sabathia amazing starter and will bring the yanks to victory
Burnett- another good starter
Wang.. not injured!

Destructive Line-Up:
Teixeria- a beast
and every one else fits the standard

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 Post subject: Re: Are the Yankees really that bad?
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I disagree with a lot of this. My differences are in bold
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2008 Yanks:
Horrible Pitching
Nope, slightly better then average, I think the twelfth (out of 30) best pitching. Better then 07
Wang injured
Kennedy and Hughs sucked
Yeah, but they were both injured too. Aceves and Guise did pretty good, and Rasner was fantastic for the first few months.
Picked up Ponson who was horrible
What!? He was fantastic! Well, in compraison to others, he had a 3.88 era and was 8-5.
Joba didnt really porform as a starter
What!?!!? Haha, he had a 2.6 ERA mate. He was Phenomenal, he just got injured.
only good thing was Mariano was great
And Mussina, he was wonderful. The pitching wasn't the problem last year, it was the offense.

Un-Clutch Line-Up:
A-Rod started off nicely hitting .335 at one point then he slowed down big time and was horrible in the clutch Yep
Posada- injured :( yep
Cano-started off horible Not just started off, but the last month was wonderful. Other then that it was terrible.
Damon- outstanding, fit up to the standard Fantastic, not outstanding haha. What about Abreu? He was great too. So was Matsui while he was healthy. The outfield was great.
Jeter- hit .270 at one point. picked up the pase and finished at 300\ He started batting like 360, got hit in the hand and his average went to 260-270, climbed back up to 315, got injured and went back down to low 300s.
Giambi- washed up piece of crap that cant hit Come on, be fairer then that. He was pretty damn good this year, and he carried the team on his back for a month. He hit runs when it mattered. He had 2-walk offs (I think)
Matsui- Injured but i still dnt like his hitting What? He was fantastic. What are you talking about with some of these guys? He hit like 330 and would have had a career year. You could always count on Matsui, Damon, and Abreu.

2009 Yankees:
Amazing Pitching:
Sabathia amazing starter and will bring the yanks to victory
Burnett- another good starter
Wang.. not injured!

Destructive Line-Up:
Teixeria- a beast
and every one else fits the standard

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 Post subject: Re: Are the Yankees really that bad?
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No, not just beacause Kennedy and Hughes were injured, they just sucked period, they need alot to work on if they want careers.

Being fantastic for a couple months doesn't cut it.

Aceves and Guise did meh, up and down up and down, then down down beacause after a month or so, I didn't hear anything on them.

Ponson was only good comparable to others, but look at his 5 losses and come back to me.

It wasn't just the offense, it was both, you can't blame the season on one aspect, you have to blame it on the whole team.

How many times is ANYONE going to say this, we know A-rod has no clutch ability. He so terrible clutch batting hitting a home run in the first inning in the world series down 3 games to nothing would be good clutch, for him.

Cano was terrible, but having a good last month when they were already out of it doesn't really help...

So was MatsuiWHEN HE WAS HEALTHY I made my point.

No comment on Jeter

Giambi, it's all in the stache, it's all in the stache. O yeah, those walk-offs were pretty, would have been prettier if they made playoffs.

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 Post subject: Re: Are the Yankees really that bad?
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DrMario wrote:
1. No, not just beacause Kennedy and Hughes were injured, they just sucked period, they need alot to work on if they want careers.

2. Being fantastic for a couple months doesn't cut it.

3. Aceves and Guise did meh, up and down up and down, then down down beacause after a month or so, I didn't hear anything on them.

4. Ponson was only good comparable to others, but look at his 5 losses and come back to me.

5. It wasn't just the offense, it was both, you can't blame the season on one aspect, you have to blame it on the whole team.

6. How many times is ANYONE going to say this, we know A-rod has no clutch ability. He so terrible clutch batting hitting a home run in the first inning in the world series down 3 games to nothing would be good clutch, for him.

7. Cano was terrible, but having a good last month when they were already out of it doesn't really help...

8. So was MatsuiWHEN HE WAS HEALTHY I made my point.

9. No comment on Jeter

10. Giambi, it's all in the stache, it's all in the stache. O yeah, those walk-offs were pretty, would have been prettier if they made playoffs.


I divided it into numbers on the post so it's easier to answer. You made some good points, most of which I agree with (What? Me agree with Doctor Mario? Is that possible? Haha, occasionally).

1. Agree, though they probably would have come arround eventually. Hughes was good at the end, which I say in hope that he's improving.
2. I actually meant fantastic as a downgrade from outstanding. Outstanding is higher on my higherarcy of excellence. I think phenomenal is at the top of mine, but I can't think of all of them haha. He was great the whole year, though he was phenomenal for around month period (6-hit walk-off game, hitting almost 500 for 15 games, around 400 for 25 or so).
3. That's Rasner, Guise pitch 2 fantastic games which were lost by errors and bullpen (he didn't give up a earned urn in either and pitched 7 innings twice), and 1 terrible game. He was a great long-reliver though. Aceves only pitch 4 games at the end of the year, but he only had a 2.3-2.4 ERA. He wasn't there long enough to go up and down.
4. I come back to you. He was much better then expected though. I exagerrated to make my point and in exasperation, but you have to admit he certainly wasn't horrible.
5. Yes, but the pitching is constantly under-rated. The offense was worse then the pitching. The pitching was better then expceted, the offense was terrible in comprarison to expectations. I agree though, everything but the bull-pen needs to improve.
6. A-Rod actually can be a clutch player. Some years he unbelieavable in the clutch, others he's terrible. Look at last years 156 RBI's, that was fantastic.
7. Yes, but after being sit and after changing his swing, he did much better. That was more about improvement for the future.
8. Yeah, but he was just that good when he was healthy. And he played his best when they were certainly still in it.
9. No comment on Jeter haha
10. Yep.

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 Post subject: Re: Are the Yankees really that bad?
PostPosted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 7:58 pm 
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I know, we aren't supposed to agree.

1. I could agree, but I have seen Hughes, if I am thinking right, he can be good here then bad there.

2. I'll agree with that one.

3. Well at least Guise and Aceves have some experience now.

4. I'll give him that he was better than expected, but that's all.

5. If you won't blame the whole team, then just don't blame anyone. You lose and win as a team.

6. CAN be clutch, CAN be clutch in the regular season, CAN NOT be very clutch in postseason. Maybe once or twice MAYBE.

7. He did change his swing, but for better or worse? Only time will tell.

8.WAS good when he was healthy, but you need to constantly stay healthy to be outstanding.

9. Still no comment on Jeter

10. Giambi, it's all in the stache, it's all in the statche.

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